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![[MMD] RGSSAA vs SGSSAA (Video)
This is my third and final comparison. I decide to compare two best anti-aliasing methods, of all the methods I’ve showed in the past two posts.
Here is the video for the comparison:https://youtu.be/nqo92C284cQ
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[MMD] RGSSAA vs SGSSAA (Video)
This is my third and final comparison. I decide to compare two best anti-aliasing methods, of all the methods I’ve showed in the past two posts.Here is the video for the comparison:As you can see in the video, it shows no AA, 8x RGSSAA, and 8x SGSSAA, and a comparison at the end to show small differences. If you look at this picture and the whole video at 720p, SGSSAA does better with the slopes than RGSSAA. SGSSAA diminishes temporal aliasing the most. RGSSAA looks pretty similar at least, and even if you’re not satisfied with the slopes, it’s still a good option to use if you only have AMD graphics. My last two comparison shows a little differences between Rotated Grid and Sparse Grid. It’s explained in the description. Generally, both are harder to tell the difference if looking for the overall quality. It’s way better than MSAA or using shader AA.Nvidia:AMD: Coming Soon
Now let’s get to the conclusion out of all three posts so far about Anti-Aliasing.Downsampling:I want to rate the worst and best method to do anti-aliasing.No AA < SMAA < FXAA < SSAA_4x.fx < MMD’s AA < MSAA + Alpha < Downsampling < Supersampling (Both Rotated and Sparse method).Shader AA methods such as FXAA or SMAA are the least you can do to do simple AA. The second comparison shows the worst than the first. Even the RayMMD video posted shows that using it alone doesn’t get rid of temporal aliasing or shimmering at all. For RayMMD, use it while using the downsampling method.SSAA_4x shader does upscale the image to twice the size and then downscale it. It is identical to 4x downsampling. However, it’s pretty challenging to use it with a post processing effect that conflicts it, which is shown in the second comparison. It can be used in conjunction with the rest of other method.MMD’s Anti-Aliasing option is explained in the second one. It uses 8xMSAA without alpha coverage. Even if you can add that with driver’s MSAA, it still leaves aliasing for shadows and shading, as seen in second comparison.Downsampling is a good option, but I put this behind supersampling because you don’t really need to use it if you’re not using RayMMD. It is used as a last option to improve more AA quality if you’re stuck in a situation like RayMMD. 4x is a good option, and you can use it with supersampling too if you want to improve small parts of the image, but still less worth doing. Also, this method can be demanding depending on what scene are you making and your hardware specs.Supersampling is the case in this post. I would use it generally and it’s compatible with any shaders I use in MMD, with RayMMD being the exception. It is the best way to have the least possible aliasing on any areas, to where you can’t even see them. -
![[MMD Tutorial] SGSSAA with Nvidia Inspector
Edit 3/12: Added LOD quality and examples.
This is my second post about SGSSAA on MMD.
I know it’s a bit overdue that I posted this than I stated. The fact that I’ve been using this method for best...](https://64.media.tumblr.com/1b1456080c7118815472fa20dad08371/tumblr_p552hjCDXe1vmtug1o1_r1_1280.png)
[MMD Tutorial] SGSSAA with Nvidia Inspector
Edit 3/12: Added LOD quality and examples.
This is my second post about SGSSAA on MMD.
I know it’s a bit overdue that I posted this than I stated. The fact that I’ve been using this method for best Anti-Aliasing, SGSSAA is the best method. To use SGSSAA on Nvidia cards on MMD, use Nvidia Inspector and make a profile for MMD and load application for both MikuMikuDance.exe, PMXEditor.exe (32 or 64 bit), and VMDViewer.exe. Then do the exact same settings from this photo and pay attention to the black texts instead of grey. Also, you don’t need AA compatibility bits to use SGSSAA for MMD.
AA Fix must be turned on to avoid artifacts when using customed AA.
Vertical Sync must be turned off so that you can have very fast rendering times when rendering to AVI. Tearing doesn’t appear since they are all shared with desktop’s V-Sync.
AA-Mode can either use Enhanced or Override to work, but I prefer Enhanced since I can toggle Antialiasing in MMD’s option to turn it off if I need to. Override will always force it. Enhanced is helpful if your GPU is very low and you want to turn it off during editing.
AA-Setting must be 8xQ and AA-Transparency Settings must be 8x Sparse Grid Supersampling to use SGSSAA, and 8x is the best quality to offer. You will want that maximum quality when rendering to AVI.
Anistropic Filtering must be at 16x to have better mipmapping details.
Texture Filtering Quality must be put at High Quality to have better mipmapping along with SGSSAA.
Driver Controlled LOD should be off and LOD bias (DX) should be at max -3.0. More about LOD below.
Hit apply and start using MMD and you will notice that it has a very high quality. On the photo at the upper side, check the yellow box to see the default MMD Anti-Aliasing and you will notice that it doesn’t cover everything. Shader aliasing, temporal aliasing, and transparency aliasing is present. SGSSAA corrects this and does full supersampling with Sparse Grid method that removes temporal aliasing greatly, and even better than standard supersampling. Temporal Aliasing is better seen in motion as temporal means several frames. Standard SSAA doesn’t help much on Temporal, and only removes it by a little. MSAA doesn’t cover shader aliasing and texture aliasing. Alpha aliasing is removed in MSAA if the settings has an option for alpha coverage. SGSSAA also helps on polygons, and even at 8x, it looks like a lot of sampling is used to smooth out any aliasing on the image. 4x barely shows temporal aliasing when I used it on some games, but 8x is a more professional option and gets rid of more small aliasing. It is compatible with any post processing effects.
About LOD, it is a subtle difference, and you can notice it if using a lower resolution, even using 16x Anistropic Filtering. It’s not as blurry as not using Anistropic Filtering. However, if you are rendering pictures or video at SD resolution, you may notice a bit blur on textures. I’ve used -3.0 bias to match how it is shown on AMD’s 8x RGSSAA method or downsampling the image. I would go by an integer negative number down on each quality, like -1.0 for 2x, -2.0 for 4x, and -3.0 for 8x. I mean the LOD blur isn’t really noiticable on higher resolutions, and trying to compare images on high resolution seems to be a little difference, so I made this a little more optional, but I prefer doing this to match fairly with AMD’s method and how it looks when downsampling.
NOTE: Since MMD-Ray shader only has its own framebuffer on display, any anti-aliasing has no effect at all, not even SGSSAA. FXAA and SMAA is our only option, but still doesn’t help with temporal or spectular lighting aliasing. If you want to get the best AA method with MMD-Ray, follow the Downsampling post.